#lms if read ty

[touchastar]

well. the case ive been a part of in regards to my trauma is uhh. finally over. feels weird. its been going on since 2019. idk how to feel. he plead guilty.

ironically even though the case was about me, i was barely a part of it. i didnt go and show up in court either. idk. probably for the best. every time i think about it too much i get dizzy and blurry. oh well. i dont feel much about its conclusion at all. i dont know what i should be feeling.

i guess its because hes been out of my life for so long and its been over for so long and has been repressed. like, idk. a restraining order isnt much to me, since we havent seen each other since i was a kid and he doesnt know where i live anymore.

there is, i guess, no way to realistically conclude the case and this chapter of my life in a way that will satisfy me and make things better. the only thing i want from all this is to be fixed and get my life back. it wont happen so... ! lol i guess.

apparently my statement was "moving". i dont really remember what i wrote.

i wish i could feel catharsis. or uncover the memories so i can work through them and recover. or anything, really, other than an emptiness. in the end, the damage has been done. and itll never be undone. no matter what the court does.

its kindof awkward rn bec my boyfriend is sitting next to me while i write this and i think i might cry from the sheer hopelessness of it all and how im broken and shit and i really dont want to cry and be comforted or anything.

[taketheringtolohac]

for me. reading fic is like. sometimes I don’t do it. but when I do and it makes me crazy enough (read like. At least once per ff reading session) I leave one single extremely long comment and hope for the best. like please accept my appreciation of your work boy.

[cabeswaterdrowned]

Mark and Julian’s relationship makes me so insane the first time I read the books I don’t remember feeling that way about it? I think I payed most attention to Ty&Livvy + Ty&Jules + Livvy&Jules out of the dynamics so those stuck out most in my memory there are also shifts in what’s focused on most in LM vs Qoaad so that’s part of it but like… Mark and Julian is so funny and compelling to me because they do not understand each other at all! No scene encompasses how much Mark does not get Julian like the scene post whipping where Jules goes on that speal about how he wouldn’t want to live if Emma died and knows it’s not healthy but he might do what Malcolm did for Annabel if she did did and Mark is like “no my baby brother you are too good a person you would never ever do something like that ik you don’t mean any of it” had me in stitches ajdjdj as a reader who’s been in Jules’ head and knows that yes, he absolutely did mean all of that (codependent king love him for that <3). And then in LoS there’s a scene where Mark is tasked with watching the kids and minor things go wrong (well I mean someone does get injured. But for Shadowhunters that is still p minor) so he’s like “oh my god Julian would Never have let things go wrong like this he would know exactly what to do” bestie no… he wouldn’t have known better he would have just faked it till he made it and never let anyone know he was struggling to begin with lolz. That’s not even getting into the Emma thing which is just a whole cycle of them projecting their own feelings onto the other person Mark assuming Julian loves her platonically because he does and Julian assuming Mark’s would be in love with her because that’s normal existence to him usually I don’t care for set ups like that but this one is fun somehow.. and that scene after Emma and Jules argued and then fucked in that cottage so Jules comes back in a good mood and notices that Mark is constantly on edge around him because he’s accidentally been so snippy/cunty to him since the fake dating started and he’s like “oh have I been that bad?” And then tells Mark he’ll be cool now because he knows they weren’t really together Andjjd. also they’re both sooo bad at being teenage boys in completely different ways so the juxtaposition of their traumas is fun “I don’t understand how to be a teenage boy because I’ve been raised to be a “feral” (only using the word because they use it to describe Mark so many times in the books) creature and feel trapped by being among humans” vs “I don’t understand how to deal with teenage boy emotions or think through that aspect of life so I repress all of them while clinging to my responsible adult mask + using my political strategist wiles to get through life”. Idk why but I just really like their whole thing…

[tyhxrondxle]

What are your top 5 favorite ships in TSC?

oh god hi!! this will probably make no sense sorry it’s 4 am!!

i’ve based my list on pure feelings, these are the ships I’ve felt most deranged about through the ten years i’ve been reading TSC and I THINK they are objectively my favorites too!!

i’d love to know your top 5 too!!!

(no particular order)

sizzy

i liked Sizzy better than Malec in TMI which is wild considering Malec IS Malec, but Sizzy did something to my brain when I was 12 and i’ve never been the same ever since!

I tend to like those ships that do not have as much page time as the rest, so maybe that’s why I loved them so much

kitty

i never call them Kitty tbh, sorrY I hatE the nameship, i’m more of a heronthorn girlie!

do I even have to explain that i’ve been waiting six years to have them again? my page is based on how much I fucking love them and they ARE my favorite ship no doubt

blackstairs

i’m conflicted about them but i’m taking into consideration the fact that i became completely obsessed with them in 2014 and I waited for Lady Midnight like crazy. i ADORED them in LM, and maybe in LoS, not sure about queen, but overall they made me so happy when I was a child so they needed to be here

malec

i mean they are married and have children and they are who they are. Alec and Ty are two of my top 5 shadowhunter characters💜

jessa

i’ve always been a Jessa stan, didn’t care that much about Wessa tbh. I LOVE who these two are now, they’re backstory and entire lovestory is wild and one of the most beautiful things Cassie has ever written. I would trade this one for Herongraystairs if Cassie had been brave enough to do what had to be done🙄

[lesbocrocker]

hey you know kit and ty and magnus and jem etc etc - are they all from the same book series? the cassandra clare ones?? 'cause i've been wondering if i should read them and our school library has them i think but there's loads and it looks really confusing,,,, is there a reading order? or have i got it all wrong and you're actually posting about several unrelated book series???

Yeah so they are all the same series 😭😭

Okay, so there’s the chronological order and the publishing order so I’ll put both here

chronological:

Clockwork Angel, Clockwork Prince, Clockwork Princess, Chain of Gold, Chain of Iron, Chain of Thorns, City of Bones, City of Ashes, City of Glass, The Red Scrolls of Magic, City of Fallen Angels, City of Lost Souls, City of Heavenly Fire, Tales From Shadowhunter Academy, The Lost Book of White, Lady Midnight, Lord of Shadows, Queen of Air and Darkness and Secrets of Blackthorn Hall.

publishing:

City of Bones, City of Ashes, City of Glass, Clockwork Angel, City of Fallen Angels, Clockwork Prince, City of Lost Souls, Clockwork Princess, City of Heavenly Fire, Tales From Shadowhunter Academy, Lady Midnight, Lord of Shadows, Queen of Air and Darkness, The Red Scrolls Of Magic, The Lost Book of White and Secrets of Blackthorn Hall.

there’s also ghosts of the shadow market and the bane chronicles but honestly you should just read those after everything else. There’s also the wicked powers but that doesn’t come out for a while. Also, Secrets of Blackthorn Hall can only be found online, so there’s a tumblr with all the entries on it.

The Infernal Devices (Clockwork Angel-Clockwork Princess) is where Jem, Will and Tessa are. It’s without a doubt the best Shadowhunter series. It’s my personal favourite. If you only read one you should definitely make it that one.

The Last Hours (Chain of Gold-Chain of Thorns) is where Christopher, James, Cordelia, Lucie, Grace, Thomas, Alastair and Matthew are. The first two are good, but the last one very much falls apart.

The Mortal Instruments (City of Glass-City of Heavenly Fire) is where Clary, Magnus, Jace, Isabelle, Simon and Alec are. I’m fairly divided on this one because it has the most worldbuilding and you should read it for the others, but it’s also shit. Clare made some interesting choices in it, which you’re probably aware of, but I’m not going to put here in case you don’t. The last book is great, and book three five and one are alright, but two and four are both travesties that didn’t need to be written.

The Dark Artifices (Lady Midnight-Queen of Air and Darkness) is where Kit, Dru, Ty and Livvy are (they’re not the main characters but i never talk about the actual mains so you wouldn’t know them). Lady Midnight fucks very hard, I love LM, I also do like LoS and QoAaD but some have said that QoAaD is bad and too much happens in it but I don’t agree, sorry.

The Eldest Curses (The Red Scrolls of Magic-The Lost Book of White) is where Magnus and Alec are the mains. It’s not really considered a proper series, more of a companion to TMI. There’s another coming out but Clare has completely forgotten about it, so there’ll be a while til that comes out.

there’s a few companion novels, tales from shadowhunter academy (main character is simon, but a lot of others from every series crop up), ghosts of the shadow market (main character is jem, tessa is in a lot of the stories in the second half, kit is a big part of it, two tlh characters have attitudes in it, the tmi characters are in it for a bit), and the bane chronicles (main character is magnus, really only tmi characters and tessa, but james and grace are in there, but they are drastically different to tlh). tfsa is really the only one i think you need to read in a specific order (after city of heavenly fire) but really gotsm and tbc don’t need to be read in a specific order, just kind of after tid and tmi respectively.

so I think that’s everything, if you have any questions, ask away.

[ave-atque-vale-herondale]

also (same anon as before) tell me how you felt about qoaad!! any predictions for twp?

if you haven’t, i recommend reading the novella books:

- the bane chronicles is fun especially if you like magnus.

- tftsa was so cute i loved her (read nothing but shadows before you read tlh)!!

- ghosts of the shadow market is definitely super important for world building for tlh and twp, so i strongly recommend reading it before them (it could be a little boring at times, i admit. but jessa is adorable). read cast long shadows and every exquisite thing before you read tlh. the rest is a lot of world building for kit’s background and jessa.

- OH OH also read the tec series if you haven’t (it follows malec) and i think it’ll eventually connect to twp.

- i believe cassie has these short stories about the tlh cast set before chain of gold. i remember reading them every month on her newsletter before the book came out. i think you can find them on her website? they’re not super important but they do get referenced once in a while in tlh

you probably know all of this and i probably mansplained (can you do that if you’re a girl?) everything 😭 but it’s better to be safe than sorry!! i hope you had fun reading everything and def let me know if you have any questions!

I'm gonna do my best to answer this in a comprehensive manner (let's see how long that lasts lol). You're my fave! (feel free to pop into my messages if you ever wanna chat or anything)

Okay I'm gonna start by saying that I had a strange relationship w TDA. I mentioned some of this in my initial post but I'm just gonna go through everything for continuity sake, if you will. Last summer I intended to finish the 3 series before my semester started. I got through all of TMI and TID but finished only LM and 150-ish pages of LoS. I waited till this summer to pick back up. I remember feeling bitter when I started LM because it was strange to have a modern-set book that didn't focus on my fave TMI gang (I watched the CoB movie religiously when I was younger and, before I knew better, watched the show weekly). It took me a while for Emma to grow on me and I initially had a hard time keeping track of all of the Blackthorns because there were so many of them. What kept me going were all of the connections to Mr. Poe (yes, I just called him that. deal with it.) I've started rambling so let me summarize this portion by saying that TDA didn't snatch me up until mid-LoS. okay, onward.

QoAaD was so reminiscent of CoHF and I loved it very much. WARNING SPOILERS FOR ANYONE WHO MAY READ THIS FOR SOME UNGODLY REASON. I appreciate the importance of the Thule portion and know the book would be shit without it, but, despite it still being fantastical, the apocalyptic vibe was not my fave. It was nice to get Livvy back for a bit (can I just say how shocking it was to have her death right after Robert? cause I feel like cc v rarely kills important characters so I thought Robert was fulfilling the death requirement yk?) and I LOVE to hate Sebastian. I'm gonna say something crazy here. I love Kit and Kieran more than I love a majority of the Blackthorns. Kit has been my fave character from this trilogy and I am not ashamed to admit it. The entire Ty Livvy spell shit was crazy because I completely felt Kit and wasn't angry at him for not outright saying that it was a bad idea, especially given the situation. I just can't believe cc had me expecting them to be fully in love with each other by then end, ONLY FOR THEM TO NOT EVEN BE ON SPEAKING TERMS (yes I know I need to be up to date w SoBH, I just need business day or two to marinate in my TDA emotions). The battle was epic, Julien's meeting was genius, Kieran is a great king, and the Malec wedding nearly had me sobbing. I'm gonna stop here w my thoughts on QoAaD cause it's getting out of hand. I am so sorry I am typing you up a full essay.

Predictions:

watch cc give us a 3rd plot that gets crazy because of some questionable heavenly fire incident (I mean, technically all three series plots that I've read have involved it if you count Jace's affect on Jem).

I'm super worried about a main character death because I think it would shatter me but it's also probably necessary? idk I dont wanna think about it

I also feel like something crazy is gonna happen to Aline and Helen because although they were literally exiled, nothing too traumatic happened to them in the main line of the story that the reader got to directly experience

not a prediction but truly me BEGGING ON MY KNEES for Jace and Kit content. I need them to be drama Herondales together. Also, Jace literally told him to come to him for personal advice so Jace helping Kit deal w his relationship w/feelings for Ty would be ideal (I really don't know how that would happen but let a person dream)

Final Segment:

Don't worry about mansplaining, youre good bae. I'm in the loop but I'm also not at the same time, if that makes any sense at all (there goes my promise of writing in a comprehensive manner). The only reason I haven't purchased the novellas is solely because it's more efficient for me to purchase a box set of a trilogy. (I do have the Codex and The Denizens of the Downworld books though). CC has done her best to make her world make sense but that woman writes up a storm and no matter what I'm always behind lol.

[edwin-paynes-bowtie]

Wait you hate TDA overall, or just Blackstairs?

I don't want to be negative, and this isn't a Hater Post, and I hope we can all handle a bit of lit crit.

Still, more under the cut because I don't want to force people to see something negative about their faves. I know I don't like reading negative posts about Matthew or Alastair, so I'll afford others the same courtesy.

I DO like Lady Midnight. It's well-written and has a strong setup.

But:

Characters

Speaking of the characters, that's my first issue.

For context, I largely read books because I like the characters and want to spend time with them. This is the reason ChoT is my favourite TSC book. It's exactly what I wanted in that it focused on the characters and their dynamics. I didn't care about the action/fantasy that it seems a lot of people wanted. It's also the reason TLH is my favourite TSC series - I blindly adore most of the characters and find them to be a super complex and likeable set with interesting interpersonal dynamics.

But in any case, back to TDA: I feel absolutely no connection whatsoever to any of these characters besides Ty, who I consider a TWP character. Like, I abhor Julian (yes, hate is the appropriate strength level). Emma loses all her personality after LM and becomes a Julian Satellite, which was very disappointing as I did initially like her. I feel nothing for Kierarktina individually or as a ship. Just... nothing.

The only character I find even remotely compelling besides Ty and maybe Kit is Diana, who's a very minor side character. I like Diana and her story with Catarina is probably the only part of TDA that I would be interested in hearing more about.

This character issue is also not helped by the fact that I find the main ship to be incredibly toxic in its codependence. I do not want Emma and Julian to be together, but I don't care about either of them enough to be bothered by it, either. Neither of those things are good.

Continuity

My second issue is the lack of plot continuity. All of Cassie's strong setup in Lady Midnight is thrown away for LoS and QoAaD.

She very clearly and blatantly scrapped whatever cool plotline she had in mind the moment that Trump was elected. The fantasy/necromancy elements fell by the wayside, and the compelling and intreguing Malcolm and Annabel storyline was gone in favor of the Cohort.

This was a poor choice. The Cohort is annoying; they're too real, they're too flanderized, and there's no nuance to any of them. They also feel like a weird addition to the series, and I always get the sense that they were a last-minute addition that Cassie made after the Trump election. Horace is, after all, basically Trump.

This makes the pacing of the series incredibly odd. There are a lot of random plot points strewn into the narrative, likely to connect TDA as Cassie originally planned it with the post-Trump TDA. This meant having dozens of PoV characters and PoV switches every 3 pages, which made QoAaD specifically a huge chore to read.

QoAaD is also a slog because of its density. There are no engaging character interactions; the fantasy plotline is poorly constructed. All we have is a 900-page chunk of political information that too closely mirrored our Trumpian reality. It was unenjoyable, dense, and boring, and I did not care enough about the characters to feel anything at all throughout the book.

Anticlimactic Conclusion

The pacing of TDA is odd, and this manifests in its conclusion as well.

Julian losing all his (excessive) negative character traits to become a Pancake Dad and live happily ever after was random.

The Annabel plotline concluded terribly. This was unsurprising as she was sidelined throughout the series, but it was still disappointing that such an interesting villain was just wasted potential in the end.

This is more of a personal problem than something wrong with the book, but I hate multiverses. I'm very unenthused about Thule, but I cannot bring myself to care too much because the only currently-living TSC character I'm invested in is Tessa. Everyone else is dead and therefore doesn't have anything to do with the Thule plotline, and I have managed to quickly brush off Thule!Tessa dying because she is blatantly not our Tessa.

The end of the book where Emma and Julian's "punishment" was losing the parabatai bond was so convenient and so contrived. There was no foreshadowing at all. It felt like a "yay, everything fixed itself" ending - which is never awesome in a book. (To a degree, I feel this about the Belial plotline in ChoT as well. But my love for the rest of the book - and the knowledge that Belial will appear in future novels- makes me feel totally fine with this.)

Those are the bulk of my feelings for TDA.

[alphs-stuff]

hi! saw that ur doing find free pendulum readings 🙂

1. does pk find me attractive

2. will me and pk date by the end of this year

3. will i have a boyfriend by the end of this year

4. does lm find me atttactive

5. will i have a glow up by the end of the year?

- ty

thank u!

I got no for every ques

[crystallilytarot]

Hi! I love your readings. Are you answering questions? If so, what will my sexual connection with my next partner be like?

My initials are LM. Ty! <3

MDNI 18+post

Thank you very much!

Well, if you don't want children, pay attention to use protection, because can be a sudden pregnancy. But pregnancy or breeding kink is here too definitely. I think you are either soulmates or at least it will be a long time relationship. And you are a very good match in bed too. They said: your body was made for me. A little possessiveness. They like to have hickies on your body. Very protective, never share you with anyone. And don't want anyone to see you in an intimate situation. But they like you being naked, love it. Love your whole body. It's a free feeling, absolutely in the moment with each other, laughing, cuddling. Actually whatever you like, whatever mood you're in. Honestly it doesn't feel very kinky, but still very enjoyable, and satisfying. Can go a little more intensely sometimes, if you are in the mood. I feel like it's good enough this way too, maybe after a little time, you will try a few things together, but in the beginning it feels a little more vanilla. Randomness, you just love each other's body, it starts sometimes randomly in the middle of making breakfast or something like that. A lot of nakedness.

[helenofblackthorns]

I have been spiralling thinking about the Blackthorns for hours because of this omg (this is very rambly they just got to me 😔)

I was thinking about the shifting roles within the Blackthorns, how Julian takes over roles that would have otherwise been Helen's and Mark's but it's set on the foundation that they come back. Mark's imprisoned and Helen's separated but they both hold the connotation that its not forever; the prisioner will one day be freed and the separated returned.

Helen used to cut everyone's hair, and Julian has to do it now but it's not forever, Helen will be back one day. like there's this expectation that it's temporary, that it will all right itself again, which is probably why Ty freaks out so much when Mark says he's not replacing Julian at the end of lm. because the whole thing was started in the idea that it would, something much harder in practice. but at the same time the Blackthorns do kinda accept Mark and Helen back into the family dynamic quickly and... almost seemlessly. like most of the problems surrounding Helen taking over stem more from Julian not being there, and when he does come back things are fine, then Helen upsetting the family dynamic. (I feel like Julian kinda loses sight of this shifting back too, but that it more from feeling like his old role doesn't exist anymore & being too changed from everything)

which is kinda interesting considering how co-dependent the Blackthorns become, especially after cohf, you would think that they would be extremely resistant to that kind of change? and it's championed by Ty, who hates even minor changes. you would think that they would have more "closed ranks" when it comes to outsiders but instead the Blackthorns get really attached to people really quickly. even before everything Helen's getting sorta engaged after like two weeks, and Mark's doing.... whatever he's doing at any point, and Ty sleeping outside Kit's door, and Dru's knows Jaime for like two days etc. reminds me of Livvy's letter in sobh where she says that "[Ty] is afraid to need people but that is only because he needs them so much" because it's kinda true for them all? like who are any of them without others? the biggest exception being Livvy herself

(this is just one big chain of thought I had after reading your addition I recognise the chaos of this lmao anyway)

Livvy doesn't really need people in the same way I think a lot of her siblings do, not to that same extreme. like while she's a romantic, she likes weddings & was really interested in the stories surrounding Will and Jem she's also very unromantic too. like how she very logically thought out her first kiss & was explaining her rationale to Kit in the same book Julian's telling Emma how he used to imagine that they were married & that his siblings were their kids - two very different thought processes. which makes her wanting to be like Julian, the Julian Julian never really wanted to be, much more interesting imo. because Livvy isn't actually like Julian at all, it would never cost her what it costed him.

Mark calling Julian "my dreamer" & Julian calling Dru "the dreamer" :(

[immortal-enemies]

I went into this TSC reread ready to love Ty again but oh BOY I WASN'T READY FOR HOW MUCH I WOULD-

[liathgray]

📂 c:

*banging fist on a table*

ROY!!! HAS!!! AD!! HD!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot stress enough how blatant it is too like.......

1) cannot multitask for shit

2) no time management skills

3) licherally HYPERFIXATES????

4) goes between doing nothing and blasting through work a mile a minute (e...executive dysfunction...)

5) frustrated VERY easily (case n point: he. He argues with a literal child. Regularly.)

6) impulsive and restless

7) will STICK WITH his shitting decision until the last breath

8) these are just off the top of my head i am Shouting From The Rooftops!

[belowe-system]

Hey I know this is weird but...

I might change the name of the group chat, bc it's a trigger word (w*cky) for one of my alters, and since him and the rest of my headmates are getting more vivid, he's getting Real hot headed from the sight of it.

With that being said!!! Please very quickly shoot suggestions for a new name for my mental illness Discord Server, because I really want to change it ASAP, but I have no ideas, thanks !!!

[vvyrmwood]

havin a real rad anxiety attack rn, gonna eat some MAC N CHEESE please tell me about ur ocs. just spam my inbox with ur ocs

[gawainism]

does anyone else get uncomfortable when people mention ty and kit doin..... that

[xvxnux]

hi there! can i have a yes or no tarot reading please. my intials are lm and my zodiac sign is pisces. my questions are —

will i be in a relationship with y?

will i be successfully academically?

hello,

1. no.

2. yes!

ty ♡